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Sonic Central => Competition Central => Topic started by: iPie on February 08, 2008, 03:40:26 pm

Title: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: iPie on February 08, 2008, 03:40:26 pm
Okay, so i was playing on radient emerald with super sonic, and after the loop, coming close to the slide thing, i made a sharp turn, and went out of the map.

Not knowing what i was doing, i ran around the map, but i ended up by one of the doors, which left me closer to the finish line.

I do not know how i did this. I have attempted to try this again, but it failed.

All i know is, i made a sharp turn into a wall, and went out of the bounderies.

I got a video of it..well..atleast me out of the bounderies..but it was recorded on my phone..and is very unclear..all you can see..is a sparkly thing..er..well..super sonic, and a black backround which is the outside of the level.

Not much of this glitch is known, i am experimenting on it.

If anyone wants to help me with this, i have provided the full version of sonic R for the PC, and a SAV file, which has all characters, stages, etc. Just load the 1st slot on the data thingy. drag the SAV file into the save folder of sonic R.

Well. anyway. If the user knows what they are doing, this glitch can probally be used to get amazing times, much like the other out of boundery glitch.

Who knows..Maybe it was just somthing lucky..well..what i do know is..this game..is so damn glitchy. lol

well heres the links.

oh..and one more thing, make sure you have WinRaR for extract the sonic R.


Sonic R for PC : http://www.esnips.com/doc/f91ddf11-500a-4596-a186-f7b865192680/sonic-race-pc-fullversion

SAV file : (oh..you might have to register to download it.. =\ so do that, and download the file on the forum)  http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=7101

well, hope this helps =]

PM me if you have any questions.

kbai =]
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: P.P.A. on February 08, 2008, 03:46:02 pm
I doubt posting a link to the game is legal...
Anyway, could you please upload the video somewhere? I'd be quite interested in it. :o
Also funny thing I read this topic just as KMaCc told me about his RE glitch.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 08, 2008, 05:30:11 pm
I read about getting out of bounds, but was never able to find out where.  Will try.
edit: Which spot on the map exactly did you do this on? http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6214/whichspotpl4.jpg
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: iPie on February 08, 2008, 06:43:02 pm
yes, kmacc, i know him irl, i was actually over his house, i was playing, and i jumped through a wall..and im like "OMFG KEV HERE" and he plays the rest of the level, and gets the record..so..yeah.

I'd give credit to both of us =]

but yes, he did break the record, so give him more credit ^^
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: iPie on February 08, 2008, 06:47:12 pm
and where i found the glitch, it was like, a little past the loop, i made a sharp turn and went right into the wall, and out of the map. Give me some time to upload the video..its from my phone..and i gotta transfer the specific type of file to a file i am able to upload to youtube...etc..etc..and boom. and the video is just me out of bounds, i couldn't tape the part where i went out..

OH..and i discovered ANOTHER glitch in the same place too!

when you go past the whindy part (not the loop) like, about in the middle, i made yet ANOTHER sharp turn..and ran into the wall..right into..er..out of the map..but..i was going to record it..and i forgot to press record on my phone..the only part you see is..me saying like "OMFG WTF"..and yeah..I think it shows a little part of me out of the map..but im not sure.

Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: iPie on February 08, 2008, 10:51:11 pm
Heres the video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHplHB4VC0
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: asdf on February 10, 2008, 08:43:52 am
Tell me more about it.

I don't know.... :(
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 10, 2008, 09:35:45 pm
^Don't worry, it's not all that great.

I only did it for my Time Attack run once and got 42.80/2.11.30 or whatever.

Since then I've gotten 2.10.xx on the 3lap, and 42.93 on the flap without the glitch.

Sdj, you're good, you should be able to beat those. =)
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Azure on February 11, 2008, 09:59:29 am
I doubt posting a link to the game is legal...
Anyway, could you please upload the video somewhere? I'd be quite interested in it. :o
Also funny thing I read this topic just as KMaCc told me about his RE glitch.
I had the game for PC but the disk got scratched too badly to use or copy. In this case, it should be legal, right?
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 22, 2008, 01:19:12 am
Kinda getting back into this game, I did RE glitch once today.

Anyways, I mostly worked on the RC sc getting 3"03 flaps and some decent 3laps for gp, time attack and reverse mode.  Kmacc is whipping me to that #3 spot.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Bilan on February 22, 2008, 05:32:35 am
Call me old fashioned, but I'm pretty sure your stat is invalid if someone else broke out of bounds for you and then let you finish the lap
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 22, 2008, 09:39:26 am
Not if the lap time wasn't on the same lap as the breaking out of bounds.  For 3-lap, I know where you're going.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 22, 2008, 10:50:10 am
^ I did it myself and got my own 42.80 which I submitted. Since then though, I have improved my Radiant Emerald times a lot, and have gotten a flap of 41.90 without any glitches.

I have a Radiant Emerald time attack video where I get 2'07"73, and the last lap is 41"93, so you can see that I'm capable of doing that. :P

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gFTCzinbL5Y
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 22, 2008, 11:17:28 am
Wait... Is that how you found out about the glitch?  That strat is :O in terms of speed.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 22, 2008, 05:08:13 pm
Wait... Is that how you found out about the glitch?  That strat is :O in terms of speed.

Sliding = Faster

Wherever and whenever you can do it, do it!

I have fallen a couple times too and I think it has to do with how fast you are going in that one section.  Kind of like RR which is random for me.

I'll be #3 in no time. ^^
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 23, 2008, 11:40:56 am
Sliding is faster, I figured that out some time ago. Take advantage of it as much as possible and your times will be much better.

One thing that sucks is in the computer version of Sonic R, you can just press the regular left and right buttons (not the "sharp turn" ones) and skid, kind of like snaking in MKDS, MKDD, etc. This isn't possible to do on the gamecube version... I've never played the originaal saturn version so I don't know if it can be done there or not.

In conclusion; SKID EVERYWHERE! :D
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 24, 2008, 07:30:15 pm
I read over some of the site competition rules and I am a little unclear on what consoles and stuff you can play on in order to have those times/scores count as valid records on the charts.

Sonic R is also on the Game Cube which is what I use, part of the sonic gems collection.

It can also be played on the PC and like Kmacc mentioned, it is not equivalent to the Game Cube.  I don't know what the game is like on the Sega Saturn so if anyone can enlighten me on what the beef is about what systems are allowed for Sonic R that would be great.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Rolken on February 24, 2008, 07:37:55 pm
The general TSC rule of thumb is to compete on whatever system you have available. We generally only restrict if there are major blanket differences, ie. Sonic Jam.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 24, 2008, 07:50:43 pm
Yes, I've talked about the difference already with Etch.

On the computer version, you can simply press left and right back and forth (equivilant to pushing the control stick left and right on the gcn version) and perform skids like that. As far as my testing has gone, this isn't possible on the gamecube version. My friend (iPie who got banned lol) had the computer version and I tried doing the skidding like that and was easily able to do it there.

I also have never played the Saturn version so I'm not aware of the mechanics. It just sucks that the PC version has an advantage like that over the gamecube version. =/
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 24, 2008, 08:04:34 pm
Can't you do that on a Gamecube by using the control stick and control pad?
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 24, 2008, 09:42:09 pm
You'd usually have to use it with L and R as well. There are instances where you can do on with just the control stick, but those are on sharp turns only. As far as I can tell, it's impossible to skid at all on a straight path like that without using a wall or any kind of solid object.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 24, 2008, 11:03:55 pm
If it uses L and R with the stick, it seems like snaking in F-Zero GX if it's what I think it is.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Kmacc on February 24, 2008, 11:15:39 pm
Even with using L or R, you can't skid as long as your moving in a somewhat straight path. If the gamecube version had the same mechanics as the PC version, all you would have to do is go back and forth on the control stick to skid and you would never need L or R.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: P.P.A. on February 25, 2008, 04:55:06 am
Have you tried using the d-pad instead? Since the keys on a computer are digital too, maybe that works.

Also wtf Etch, those Resort Island times are crazy! Did you use the out-of.bounds glitch near the waterfall or what?
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 25, 2008, 04:58:08 am
Have you tried using the d-pad instead? Since the keys on a computer are digital too, maybe that works.

Also wtf Etch, those Resort Island times are crazy! Did you use the out-of.bounds glitch near the waterfall or what?

Nope I wasn't near the waterfall.

I already explained what I did to Kmacc and he was able to duplicate. ^^

You get out of bounds near the start and basically loop around while staying out of bounds to get the lap counter to go up.  I will get some videos up tomorrow. ; )
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: P.P.A. on February 25, 2008, 05:19:21 am
Have you tried using the d-pad instead? Since the keys on a computer are digital too, maybe that works.

Also wtf Etch, those Resort Island times are crazy! Did you use the out-of.bounds glitch near the waterfall or what?

Nope I wasn't near the waterfall.

I already explained what I did to Kmacc and he was able to duplicate. ^^

You get out of bounds near the start and basically loop around while staying out of bounds to get the lap counter to go up.  I will get some videos up tomorrow. ; )
Ah, I see. I'll be looking forward to the videos. :p

Ok, so... now 2 of 5 courses are totally broken due to glitches, and Regal Ruin (reverse only) too. Fuck.
ROLKEN I KNOW IT'S STUPID BUT WHAT ABOUT GLITCHED/NON-GLITCHED CHARTS FOR SONIC R
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 25, 2008, 05:23:44 am
Ah, I see. I'll be looking forward to the videos. :p

Ok, so... 2 or 5 courses are totally broken now due to glitches, and Regal Ruin (reverse only) is too. Fuck,
ROLKEN I KNOW IT'S STUPID BUT WHAT ABOUT GLITCHED/NON-GLITCHED CHARTS FOR SONIC R

I think the glitch is old because I saw someone from here do it in a video but they did not think of using it to make a sc. xD

RI, RC, RR reverse, RE reverse are the ones with major shortcut glitches.

Don't be surprised if more surface.

Kmacc also mentioned that idea because let's face it, they are two very different styles of racing and the old times were very good but whatever you guys do, I'll just roll with it.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: yse on February 25, 2008, 05:46:15 am
Certainly the idea is valid. I can't see it being implemented though, and here is why.

TSC has always had a more relaxed attitude even to major glitches than most competition sites out there. In general the stance is "if the game lets you do it, it's allowed". There are exceptions, of course, but we're talking about stuff that makes competition completely null, like 0-second completion of any level in any MegaDrive Sonic game.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Bilan on February 25, 2008, 08:22:10 am
I remember when Sonic R was fun
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Selphos on February 25, 2008, 08:24:42 am
Heh RPG :(
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 25, 2008, 02:40:03 pm
Hey guys, here's my first video for Sonic R. :)

This shows all the times I have submitted currently on RI and how to perform it.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WSlnfOfmwaY

Who would have guessed Amy was better than Super Sonic???

It looks like it didn't take long for sdj to beat some of them.  I still agree with Kmacc that the PC poses an advantage over the game cube when it comes to sliding, unless we are just missing something.  I guess its my turn to await some videos from him now, crazy good flap there on RI.  Unless I figure it out myself soon a video of his flap would be nice.

Cheers boys
Title: Re: Sonic R Resort Island TA Video
Post by: asdf on February 25, 2008, 08:02:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrjrmRJHQw

00:25:10 - Super Sonic
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 25, 2008, 08:29:50 pm
Haha that's awesome. :)

I knew I couldn't get out of bounds with any other character besides Amy there.

So that must have been the one PPA was talking about.  I guess no one thought of doing the sc with that one either. ^^

Good job
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 25, 2008, 09:35:25 pm
Again with the small-turning... Tell me how the hell you do that! >:(
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 26, 2008, 02:15:04 am
Again with the small-turning... Tell me how the hell you do that! >:(

You just spin in place and tap the gas (b or x) on and off so you run in a smaller circle.

RC sc flap is a little more complicated but there does not seem to be anything funky with RI sc flap. ^^
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: P.P.A. on February 26, 2008, 05:27:59 am
Yeah, that's the one I meant.

I saw a video of it a few weeks ago and also showed it to Groudon, but for the sake of not another course being ruined, we decided not to further research into it.
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Groudon on February 26, 2008, 08:49:22 am
With an additional course being broken, Sonic R is no longer fun to compete in.  If I ever am crazy enough, I will do one run on each mode of Resort Island using the glitch and never play Sonic R for competing again. :(

edit: ..wha?  Since when is Amy useful?
Title: Re: New Sonic R glitch found!!
Post by: Etch on February 26, 2008, 06:36:37 pm
Well, the definition of fun varies from player to player.

I dare anyone to try and get near sdj overall because places like RF, RR and RE for the most part do not have sc/glitches and there is still the balloons and tag which require an extreme amount of patience/skill to pull off a good run.  These are not the only things that will make your rank and once you play them enough becomes second nature.

I think I found another one. xD

I was starting off on RE and fell out of the level near the start so there is the possibility of doing flaps under 20 seconds or more.  This place like RR are harder to do consistently but sdj has gotten RR down to a science in his 22"66 run.  Nothing is impossible but its definitely harder to attempt solid sc/glitch runs as compared to normal race coniditions.