The Sonic Center
Mario Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: ieatatsonic on August 31, 2009, 05:07:35 pm
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i have looked at some of his stats, and some of them are questionable. i particularly want to mention his time for gnarly in smw.
http://mario.soniccenter.org/members/llcooldave/super_mario_world_ntsc/times/gnarly/normal
please reply with a description of your strategy or a form of media.
also i know i can't call bs just because it 'doesn't look right' but this seemed odd
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Hmm, I tried this level and i could get 245 at the most. It's also videoed. Not sure about the 247, probably a new trick.
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I got my 251 with a snapshot. When I did the initial run I knew that the time could be improved by 1 or 2 seconds....
But 6 seconds sounds odd, I mean with the strategy I used it's easy to get 251 and possibly a 252. I'm curious as to see what strat this guy used.
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hm, i'll try a few strats and see if i could come close
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I know LLCoolDave visits Speed Demos Archive often, so if I see him in the SDA chat then I'll ask him about this. At one point he registered to the Mario Center and dropped off his SMW stats that he achieved a long time ago. It's possible that a time was entered incorrectly by accident, or something. I do think he was well aware of the start-without-powerups rule, though.
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Ok, it took me a while (About an hour) but i managed 257 with a fast way to defeat the hammer brother near the end. I used an emulator this time since i only have PAL version of the SNES, but i used no slowdowns, savestates or power-ups at the beginning. So it is possible to get 257. We still need to see some proof though
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I can't really give any form of proof because all these scores are from the end of 2003. I definitely did not use powerups or savestates, because those were the rules of our competition back then as well, but I really don't recall how I did the level after over 5 years, and there's a non-zero chance the number I wrote down is wrong. Here's the list I got from back then: http://thps3.net/LLCD_MTA.txt
I may have a couple of emulator replay files I recorded back then, but they probably are on a HDD burried deep somewhere in the basement, so no real chance of finding them. If anything seems particularly suspicious, I won't object removing the scores. I can't absolutely guarantee or proof the integrity of them, so all you really have is my word that I took good care on maintainig that score list years ago.
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I know how to get 257 and you seem like a good player, so you might get to keep those scores, just ask yoshifan or ieatatsonic to see if they will allow you.
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I just played Gnarly myself, and I agree that a time of 257 or better should be doable. I got 260 on the GBA version (which isn't allowed for competition, but should only have fairly small differences).
Anyway, I think all suspicions are cleared here for now, so no proof will be needed.
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Okay, That sounds reasonable. It didn't seem right, but since you got 260 on the GBA, I guess it is possible. I never really knew how I got mine, so maybe if I knew I could improve.