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279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« on: September 29, 2006, 05:54:12 PM »
I just noticed Chao_Fan submitted a stat that I think is false.  241 is the max anyone else has gotten, and I don't find 279 possible.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2006, 08:10:54 PM »
I was also looking at that time when it was first posted and I wondered the same thing. Must be a typo or something. Maybe they meant to submit for a different team (they apparently did many in one shot so it's possible).

241 is the maximum.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 12:15:09 AM »
They claimed another record. Either liars, or too incompetent to be allowed to compete.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 06:29:15 PM »
Yeah, really.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 07:24:35 PM »
It's legit. I found a way to keep going on so I could get more rings. When you get to the room with the skeleton holding the platforms, I hit the switch that made it hold a platform forwards. I flew to the platform on its head, got on the platform it was holding up, got on & jumped off the web & flew up to the room above. I went as far as the room with the statues that come alive. I didn't hit the switch so I could go back to the goal ring. I've done it on other stages to and I'm one person thank you very much.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 08:10:50 PM »
I've proven your statement true, and will be uploading video proof shortly.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 08:35:04 PM »
I'm sorry I accused you. It just seemed so... unbelievable. :P

Anyway, you must be really proud, honestly, to figure that out. Not only that, but to share your secret as well. That takes humility! :P

Anyway, I'm sorry and I hope Rolken will be notified of this.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 07:55:02 PM »
Thank you knuckles_sonic8 & this "going beyond" thing can happen in other stages. You can go beyond the Goal Ring on Casino Park, Frog Forest, Mystic Mansion(Bbut you can't go far) & Final Fortress(It's REALLY hard but possible).
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2006, 07:57:39 PM »
I figured out you could go beyond the Goal Ring on Frog Forest, and broke your record by 9.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2006, 08:04:13 PM »
I'd like to see how it works in Frog Forest.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 08:06:02 PM »
Just fly to the other side past the Goal Ring and take the upper flower and get every balloon you see.  The rest I'll leave for you to find out.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 09:32:02 PM »
Thank you knuckles_sonic8 & this "going beyond" thing can happen in other stages. You can go beyond the Goal Ring on Casino Park, Frog Forest, Mystic Mansion(Bbut you can't go far) & Final Fortress(It's REALLY hard but possible).

No prob. And thanks for sharing. That was nice of you considering the circumstances :P

Just fly to the other side past the Goal Ring and take the upper flower and get every balloon you see.  The rest I'll leave for you to find out.

Trying to visualize it but having a hard time. :P
Guess I'll have to wait unitl I get my game back.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2006, 02:49:49 PM »
Meh, I might as well make a video.  I did so with Mystic Mansion, so I guess I will for Frog Forest.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2006, 03:40:32 PM »
I'm going to have to do that myself for Frog Forest...I think I know what he's talking about and its easy since I done it with others before...saves time for those that can with the frog, but you dont even need the frog.

There a vine where the first flower on the low level is, switch to fly and jump on it, gain some speed and as soon as you hit the small slope on the vie, jump up and at the top of your jump, start to fly.  Then shoot your characters off to get yourself up there more easily.  If thats what your talking about then sweet.  Also would it have 2 goal rings in that stage?
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2006, 04:08:37 PM »
In every stage except Seaside Hill, there is a second Goal Ring.  Out of the levels I've gotten farther on without AR, only Mystic Mansion has a Team Rose dead-end right before the 3 altars.  On Bullet Station, the second Goal Ring is located right before the final cannon that shoots you to the other teams' end.  That cannon is actually missing with Team Rose.  And on Frog Forest, you can get right to the last Goal Ring, which is the other 2 teams' Goal Rings.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2006, 09:38:33 PM »
You bastards, now I really wanna play Heroes again, damn GC not working... ;X but nice find Chao_Fan. ;P
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2006, 06:37:00 PM »
Thanks :D. I'm having problems going past the goal ring on Final Fortress & getting every obtainable ring & not losing any. Hopfuly I might get a good submission for it.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2006, 07:24:39 PM »
Same here. If you're going by the method I've tried, it's really hard.

I've tried, after reaching the final area where the Goal Ring is, I head up onto the rail that leads up to the 1Up and some runs I use Cream to try to jump over and fly across and try to continue from there but by the time I land, the platform starts to lower nad it's already too low for me to be able to fly up top to keep going, anyway. Another run or two, I've tried Amy and using Tornado Hammer to get acrosss but, again, no luck.

How do you think it could be done? You going about it the same way?
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2006, 04:34:23 PM »
Well.......


     After using team blast to speed up, hop on the rail that leads to the 1up. Jump just at the right angle so you can go as far as possible. Then (this gets tricky) you land on a studry platform. Start using Quick Accend A LOT and (from a stroke of luck) you will bounce off the wall and start fling all over again, thus will make you go high enough to make the platform above.

     I'v tried this many times but only succeeded once or twice. It depends on luck.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2006, 05:09:44 PM »
yeah there are some odd spots where you can get another flight guage...thats too much of a hassle though for me so I'll pass.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2006, 06:06:34 PM »
On MM, turns out getting past the supposed dead-end at the ring trail might be possible.  I've gotten real close, but the flight gauge ran out when I was close.  374 might be the max if Team Rose can make it to the platform.

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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2006, 10:40:26 AM »
Well, I got 428 on FF; 351 on Final and 303 on Bullet. Can you say PERFECT RUNS?!

I vid'd the Final one but only the parts after I past the Ring. Right after I reached the platform I think...

But all in all, I had great runs on Friday!!!
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2006, 08:40:30 PM »
Wait... this MM glitch was just discovered recently? My brother found that one months ago
(probably almost a year, actually). I tried getting to the goal ring, but getting to the altars
seemed impossible. I never thought of using it for more rings, probably because I don't compete
in those charts. I should fool around with glitches more, so I can take advantage of them. Muhahahaha!

Hey, what about going back from the start? I did that on Rail Canyon and Lost Jungle (both Rose).
I can't remember if there were rings, though. Has anyone else done these?

Oh, and then there's getting Team Chaotix into an extra part of MM with another bobsled
by pushing through a fake spot in the wall. I found that one of the first times I played.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2006, 09:56:29 PM »
The MM ring trick is not a glitch since there's no passing through walls or similar tricks like that. There is however a glitch with Team Rose if you try to fly towards the double doors at the end of the extra bit of the level in which they get trapped and are unable to escape, thus causing them to fall into a pit.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2006, 08:39:10 PM »
Okay, trick, then. But it wasn't meant to be done, and it stretches the flying characters' jumps.

Do I get to take credit for the other tricks I mentioned, or did someone else find them first?
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2006, 04:43:45 PM »
I think you're the first to mention Rail Canyon, Lost Jungle, and MM (Chaotix) having similar issues.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2006, 09:22:09 PM »
I knew about the fake wall in MM, but I didn't know chaotix can go through it.  it wont help in timed runs, but I'll look into it.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2006, 09:53:19 PM »
Hey, what about going back from the start? I did that on Rail Canyon and Lost Jungle (both Rose).
I can't remember if there were rings, though. Has anyone else done these?

I recall doing that on Rail but, as was the case with you, don't remember. Will check 'em out... Doubt anything for Lost, though.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2006, 09:23:54 PM »
I knew about the fake wall in MM, but I didn't know chaotix can go through it.  it wont help in timed runs, but I'll look into it.
Are we thinking about the same fake wall? This wouldn't help in time-attacking either,
but I don't think you would've found this one with a team other than Chaotix.
It's in that place where most of the teams drop into a pit, but an air current stops Chaotix,
and they have to use a flower to teleport ahead of that small section.
You can push against the back-right wall to go outside and then fall back in below the wind.
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Re: 279 Rings on Mystic Mansion (Team Rose)?
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2006, 10:22:48 PM »
thats the only spot where the first bobsled is marth...been playing that stage for too long not to know about that.

and I found this out with team sonic and it works for everyone...hell it works for them a lot better than with chaotix.
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